Your opinion of Clive Palmer

[levendara]

Mar 1, 2012 21:08:42 GMT 10 aek210 said:

Mar 1, 2012 20:56:48 GMT 10 sydcro57 said:

Guess you've got some facts to back that up?

The lack of transparency, the failure to respect the fans and stakeholders of the game, poor management of the game. Where do I begin:

* Failed economic modelling that has clubs bleeding under a mountain of debt

* Forbidding clubs to seek wider sponsorship from the business community - ie from car companies or Telcos

* Forbidding Perth Glory from celebrating 10 years in football because prior to 2006 football did not exist.

* Forbidding games going ahead with South melbourne and Gay Leagueclubs because it was seen to indermine the FFA Cup - something that has failed to materialise.

* Needing an 8 million dollar bailout because they were trading as insolvent after only 6 years

* Failure to do due diligence prior to admitting GCU and NQ Fury leading to the problems we have now

* Subsequesntly putting at risk any fruitful negotiations as far as the next tv contract is concerned.

* Focusing on the Socceroos and a failed World Cup bid while ignoring the Gay League- increasing the loss clubs have had to endure.

* 7 seasons in and NO club even breaking even.

* Ignoring Footballs history and failing to engage Australia's traditional clubs

* Awarding the licence to a West Sydney bid purely because Rowden and Buckley/Lowy were mates, even though the bid had no financial backing.

* Screwing other bids in the meantime who had been doing ground work for over a year (Rowdens bid was around for less then 4 months).

* Starting the league with only 1 club representing Sydney.

* Ignoring key reccomendations of 3 footballing reports over the past decade and the example of the NASL - among which was the recommendation to play out of boutique stadiums

* Not allowing clubs a say in the way the Gay Leagueis run

BOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!

[sydcro57]

Boom?

Which of those are FACTS and which of them has Palmer actually said?

[aek210]

Mar 1, 2012 21:16:33 GMT 10 sydcro57 said:

Boom?

Which of those are FACTS and which of them has Palmer actually said?

He said football is poorly managed. that is a fact.

You asked for facts to back it up. they are listed above.

[sydcro57]

That was the general message... But you said everything he said was fact.

No doubt that football is poorly managed, always has been. You're the idiots who are desperate to be part of it lol

[paoktzi]

These post by these united guys are so confused and messed up!

Pick a side ur not better than both of them with yr 400 fans

[sydcro57]

Im not on your side or 'theirs'.

I just think it's laughable that you blokes spend so much time telling everyone how shit the FFA and aleague are while spending an equal amount of time begging to be part of it all.

[mini]

Okay we've been through this before sydcro57, Olympic is a top tier club, whatever title it may be called. Must we always go round the merry go round with ur repetitive posts?

[sydcro57]

Yes yes, even if it means getting in bed with everything you've been against for 7 years. Like i said, laughable


If you guys didn't spend the last 7 years kicking and screaming you might still have some credibility

[mini]

What makes u think we give a fuck about ur credibility? Answer me that

[anothermp]

Sydcro we take your point even though none of us agree with you for the reasons we've explained, we are a top tier club whatever that top tier might be.

As for our point that you should take, there's something sick and twisted in letting your own club die a slow and undignified death through the inaction of those who we would assume cared enough not to let it get to that point.

uniteds better days are long behind them while Olympics return to its rightful place is just around the corner. We didn't pick the cards we were dealt but we are playing the hand given to us. We won't give up

[sydcro57]

Mini, who said anything about our credibility? I was talking about yours... Keep up

Mp- who says my club is dying? You? If rather a slow death on the state leagues than a very quick one in the aleague

[mini]

okay let me rephrase that.

what makes you think we give a shit about what you think about our credibility? you some sort of footballing judge that we must go through before we do what we want for our club?

[sydcro57]

I'm not talking about what I think about your credibility. I'm talking about your credibility amongst any football fan who has spent any time on Australian football forums over the last few years

... no, i'm not a judge of anything. You can do whatever you want.... but this is a forum, we cant all agree on everything

[paoktzi]

They think they are GODS and they are judging everyone from above

malakies

[1992]

clive palmer doesnt give two fucks about football. All he wants to do is try and put lowy on show because lowy did that to him. Its just a couple of million/billionaires having a power struggle.