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Post by mini on Aug 23, 2010 13:07:58 GMT 10
This is not about who should be in the B-league, but suitable regions and Clubs.
These are the ones I think that can sustain a Club in this League. All Eastern State Clubs + 1 from South Aus.
NSW:
Sydney Olympic (Canterbury-Bankstown, St George, Inner-West)
Sydney United (South West Sydney)
Bonnyrigg White Eagles (South West Sydney)
Marconi (South West Sydney)
Sutherland Sharks (South Sydney and Sutherland Shire)
Wollongong (Illawarra)
Albury-Wadonga (Riverina+Wadonga)
Victoria:
South Melbourne
Dandenong Thunder
Oakleigh Cannons
Melbourne Knights
Geelong
Ballarat or Bendigo
Queensland:
Another Brisbane Club, like Olympic FC?
Sunshine Coast
South Australia:
Another Adelaide Club.
Canberra:
Many capable Clubs in Canberra
With this set up, we have 2 Qld Clubs, 1 Canberra, 1 Wollongong, 1 South Australia, 1 Geelong Club, 1 Country NSW, 1 Country Victoria, and three from Sydney and three from Victoria = 14 Clubs.
If they want a 12 Team comp, then they can scrap the country sides, or one from Queensland or Geelong.
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Post by paoktzi on Aug 23, 2010 14:50:03 GMT 10
Take out Bonno and oakleigh cannons not worthy of it
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Post by jimmyjump on Aug 23, 2010 16:22:39 GMT 10
If the B league is too happen, then they have to get rid of the 3k cap for selling players.
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Post by Blaze on Aug 23, 2010 18:07:25 GMT 10
jimmyjump is correct, if a second division is to be launched, the FFA need to reconsider the limitations on player transfers and the length of contracts needs to be extended to the standard of the A-league.
Paoktzi, you stated that you were selecting clubs to represent regions but the clubs you listed to not reflect this. You can't have Sydney United, Marconi and Bonnyrigg all in the same competition. They are too close to each other and will split the crowds from that area. Olympic is in a stronger position because we have no rivals in the Canterbury Bankstown area which can compete in a second division competition. I also don't agree with clubs from rural NSW. The interest isn't there and they will fail.
The rest are fine.
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Post by paoktzi on Aug 23, 2010 18:25:39 GMT 10
jimmyjump is correct, if a second division is to be launched, the FFA need to reconsider the limitations on player transfers and the length of contracts needs to be extended to the standard of the A-league. Paoktzi, you stated that you were selecting clubs to represent regions but the clubs you listed to not reflect this. You can't have Sydney United, Marconi and Bonnyrigg all in the same competition. They are too close to each other and will split the crowds from that area. Olympic is in a stronger position because we have no rivals in the Canterbury Bankstown area which can compete in a second division competition. I also don't agree with clubs from rural NSW. The interest isn't there and they will fail. The rest are fine. for me bonno has to go from that list but somehow united and marconis facilities cannot be left out! in london clubs are centremetres away and everton and liverpool are on each others doorsteps. plus the south west is football heartland. for me olympic represents these areas. Canterbury St George Bankstown and all olympic people who live all around sydney. this cannot be overlooked by the ffa for a b-league or an Gay League |
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Post by mini on Aug 23, 2010 18:27:50 GMT 10
We are not in England.
Marconi, Croatia and BWE can not all be in it.
Marconi has the facilities.
Croatia has the history.
BWE has the fans.
Which one do you pick?
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Post by kon12 on Aug 23, 2010 20:30:19 GMT 10
or u just put them all together and create the western suburbs
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Post by paoktzi on Aug 23, 2010 21:00:14 GMT 10
or u just put them all together and create the western suburbs they can both survive financially so that is one of the main requirements? right |
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Post by anothermp on Aug 23, 2010 22:18:56 GMT 10
Take out Bonno and oakleigh cannons not worthy of it Oakleigh yeah probably not, Id put Bonnyrigg in front of Syd Utd tho Ive heard that the latter is in some big financial troubles, besides Bonnyrigg I think has proven to everyone that they can step up to the plate with supporters, with avoiding trouble with having a professional setup. What about Floreat Athena!! Theyd get smashed with travel expenses, maybe a case where the FFA could justify massive dedicated-for-purpose handouts |
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Post by Blaze on Aug 24, 2010 3:17:57 GMT 10
The sponsorship deals for a second division would have to be immense for a club from WA to be part of it. Otherwise there is no way they'd be able to afford the traveling expenses and the FFA would never hand out a care package to any team below the A-league, and it shouldn't have to.
All levels of football should be self sufficient, including the A-league, but the FFA was so concerned with creating a league where the teams are new and have no previous stigma that it overlooked the possibility of the fans losing interest. This was always going to happen as the new clubs lack a history and faithful fans. The new clubs which have just been introduced are gimmick clubs and will remain so for a number of seasons untill their fan base settles.
The problem is what will happen untill then? Will the FFA continue to bail clubs out because they want to continue refusing entry to older clubs?
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Post by mrinde on Aug 24, 2010 16:26:07 GMT 10
Why can't a national system (not necessarily a national league) be implemented for all lower than A league clubs, they play in regions/states and win promotion up to higher levels. the last level before Gay Leaguecould be made of say three conferences of say 8 teams each and the winner of each conference goes into a post season comp to win a promotion spot. Given the current number of teams I think any more than 1 relegation/promo spot is probably too much. Then you will have a promotion relegation system for entry exit in the A-league. This way clubs that most deserving will be able to rise to the top. This way if Marconi, Syd Utd and BWE win their way to the top and develop/acquire/have facilities required of that standard then no matter that they are on each others doorstep.
Mr Inde
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Post by paoktzi on Aug 24, 2010 17:41:30 GMT 10
Why can't a national system (not necessarily a national league) be implemented for all lower than A league clubs, they play in regions/states and win promotion up to higher levels. the last level before Gay Leaguecould be made of say three conferences of say 8 teams each and the winner of each conference goes into a post season comp to win a promotion spot. Given the current number of teams I think any more than 1 relegation/promo spot is probably too much. Then you will have a promotion relegation system for entry exit in the A-league. This way clubs that most deserving will be able to rise to the top. This way if Marconi, Syd Utd and BWE win their way to the top and develop/acquire/have facilities required of that standard then no matter that they are on each others doorstep. Mr Inde If only the ffa was so fair |
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Post by Blaze on Aug 25, 2010 23:08:24 GMT 10
True, and the struggle to gain promotion would improve the fan base as well. Though I don't think the FFA would want that when it comes to a select group of clubs.
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Post by elina4lyf on Aug 25, 2010 23:27:30 GMT 10
i wish
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Post by prostkxy on Aug 26, 2010 23:41:28 GMT 10
at the end of the day it all sounds excellent on paper but with Frank Lowry on the board of the FFA our clubs have a better chance playing in champions leauge rather than the a-league
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