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Post by anothermp on Oct 3, 2010 21:11:22 GMT 10
agreed! its as simple as that fellas Im sure if the FYRoM issue is as important to people as they are making out, there are a lot more productive ways to bring about change than rant on a forum. |
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Post by phoenix on Oct 4, 2010 8:58:12 GMT 10
phoenix im still waiting for you to pm me your number dont you want to talk to me? phoenix im still waiting for the truth to be revealed dont you want to inform me? phoenix im still waiting to hear about the responses you received from the email you sent to 40 members of the SOFC board, FNSW and the media in june dont you want to prove your case? every time i ask you to explain you dont reply instead you open a new thread, how can people take you seriously? I have explained everything that has happened quite explicitly for all to read. I don't have to explain myself further, whether it be in writing or verbally. I only re-iterate things because it's obvious some of you guys need a bit of a hand understanding things. The truth has been revealed. What response did I get from our club and FNSW to my lengthy piece? NONE WHATSOEVER... which tells me that they know they are severely on the back foot.. otherwise they would have come out and responded. I can tell you that the two guys at the KOSMOS, along with FNSW and Sydney Olympic FC, tried to take action against my family for the "HUGE INCIDENT" that took place before the Sutherland game. If you guys saw the incredible correspondence between FNSW, Sydney Olympic and the journalist in question, you would have been entitled to think that my family was facing a High Court case... An email with 5MB of documents and totally ludicrous allegations against my family... and all TORPEDOED by my responses to them. It took me to chase FNSW for a determination if my family would face a FNSW Disciplinary tribunal and in the end FNSW had no other decision to make other than to determine that my family had NO CASE TO ANSWER to the very harmful allegations (that I physically threatened the journalist, that my father physically threatened the journalist etc). And the most disgraceful thing of all was this. The PRESIDENT of the club, yes, MR GEORGE GIANNAROS was there at that incident. He was ONE METRE AWAY. Yet he did NOTHING TO PROTECT three club members in the face of such allegations.. MAD PRESIDENT.... and you expect me to have warm and cosy feelings towards the club after everything I've done for the club,..only to be treated like this?? Sorry, but I have had enough. Like I said in my length piece.... IT'S NOT SYDNEY OLYMPIC ANYMORE. |
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Post by anothermp on Oct 4, 2010 10:28:45 GMT 10
I have explained everything that has happened quite explicitly for all to read. I don't have to explain myself further, whether it be in writing or verbally. I only re-iterate things because it's obvious some of you guys need a bit of a hand understanding things. The truth has been revealed. What response did I get from our club and FNSW to my lengthy piece? NONE WHATSOEVER... which tells me that they know they are severely on the back foot.. otherwise they would have come out and responded. It took me to chase FNSW for a determination if my family would face a FNSW Disciplinary tribunal and in the end FNSW had no other decision to make other than to determine that my family had NO CASE TO ANSWER to the very harmful allegations (that I physically threatened the journalist, that my father physically threatened the journalist etc). So you did or you didnt get responses from FNSW? saying what? meaning what? It seems like maybe the SOFC board didnt want to justify your email with a response, and FNSW politely came out and said 'thanks, but we're not touching that with a 20ft pole'. Alright Phoenix to me that sounds like legitimate beef. Something worth discussing here at least. Its really disappointing you feel that way. but why then are you posting in this way? Sydney Olympic is more than these people, its partly what makes us different to the vast majority of the Gay Leagueclubs.. the club responsible to its community. We together make Sydney Olympic. we're doing some really exciting things mate, things it seems that havent been done before, or done properly before. Its exciting to breathe a new life into our club. Itd be great if you could be part of that. Olympic still loves you. |
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Post by kon12 on Oct 4, 2010 12:24:16 GMT 10
mans got a point
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Post by phoenix on Oct 4, 2010 19:11:06 GMT 10
It seems like maybe the SOFC board didnt want to justify your email with a response, and FNSW politely came out and said 'thanks, but we're not touching that with a 20ft pole'. SOFC didn't respond because they know it's true but can't acknowledge it because they would be hammering themselves. FNSW didn't respond because they too know what I wrote is true but they too couldn't acknowledge it for the same reason as above. |
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Post by paoktzi on Oct 4, 2010 20:28:19 GMT 10
All of the people i know who read the email were laughing at the writer, that email only damaged the name of the club and the writer it did nothing else.
In terms of revealing truth i dont know what your talking about there a ways of doing things and that was not one of those ways.
Now take this how you want, get angry at me because i am the only one telling you what people think but dont just look at one side of the story, your actions and the way you are carying on is doing nothing for anyone
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Post by phoenix on Oct 4, 2010 20:36:36 GMT 10
All of the people i know who read the email were laughing at the writer, that email only damaged the name of the club and the writer it did nothing else. In terms of revealing truth i dont know what your talking about there a ways of doing things and that was not one of those ways. Now take this how you want, get angry at me because i am the only one telling you what people think but dont just look at one side of the story, your actions and the way you are carying on is doing nothing for anyone Good to know that people laughed at what I wrote. That shows me that these people don't look at the big picture of what has happened in terms of the club. If I post some of the emails and facebook messages I got then maybe your views would change. How else was I supposed to reveal the truth? I'd like to know. (this isn't a pisstake - it's a serious question and I'll respect your answer) My actions and the way I'm carrying on should serve as a very very loud alarm bell to everyone that the club isn't all roses at the moment. If you think it is then you may as well sing (yep, you guessed it) Ring-a-ring-a-rosey.. |
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Post by phoenix on Oct 4, 2010 20:42:49 GMT 10
Here are some of the facebook messages:
"yeah most definetely olympics loss..we should have released ages ago what crap they were. Tey use people and instead of defending them they turn on everyone. Nick did everything for them and that was his thank you."
Paoktzi.. you know the person who wrote this. This person has also been involved at the club.
Next:
"Hi pete I hope that u n ur family r all wel considering. I'm so sorry about wat uz r going thru. It ain't fair, no way not 2 ur family who has given their heart n soil to our club. I'm so disgusted with wat I read in ur letter (excellent said). Im also very angry with the clubs treatment of u n the 2 fukin mungril reporters. Kala toys ekanes ke ta grapses Ola kato meta apo tosi aganahtisi Ke sikofandies apenandi sas. Pls tell me what I can do in support of u n ur family bcoz I'm right beside yaz. Take care n kourayio mehri na vrite thikeosini se afto olo to martirio xxx"
Paoktzi, you know this person too. And this person also has been involved at the club.
Do you want me to keep going?
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Post by paoktzi on Oct 4, 2010 20:45:41 GMT 10
you can post people commending you but i know heaps of people laughing at it, you need to accept that.
What else can you do, well it depends what the problem was?
If we understand the problem then we can come up with a solution.
Volunteers is not what holds a club up, it is important dont get me wrong, but me personally i think if you dont pay people things dont get done, now you might find a couple of guys that do wonders but you cannot count on that week in week out.
So what is the problem so we can come up with a solution for you
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Post by phoenix on Oct 4, 2010 20:45:45 GMT 10
your actions and the way you are carying on is doing nothing for anyone I'm sticking up for my family. That's who I'm doing this for. For me and my family. If you can't see that then maybe you have to get shafted up the rear end by the club or see a family member or two get shafted and maybe then you'll see where I'm coming from. |
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Post by paoktzi on Oct 4, 2010 20:48:17 GMT 10
still not the way to do it mate, achieved nothing for you and for the club.
a lose for all so it was not right in my books
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Post by phoenix on Oct 4, 2010 20:50:17 GMT 10
So what is the problem so we can come up with a solution for you I don't need you or anyone trying to solve my problems. I can do it myself (and I'm solving it as I speak - don't worry about that). The problem at Olympic is the president and his supporters. Get rid of him and his supporters, including the vermin media contingent.. and you solve olympic's problem. Simple and plain as that. |
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Post by paoktzi on Oct 4, 2010 20:51:57 GMT 10
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Post by phoenix on Oct 4, 2010 20:52:38 GMT 10
still not the way to do it mate, achieved nothing for you and for the club. a lose for all so it was not right in my books How I choose to stick up for myself and my family is MY BUSINESS. I have achieved plenty for my family in letting the truth speak for itself. My family has judged me and that counts infinitely more than what most Olympic supporters think. They can laugh all they want.. I couldn't give a flying. |
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Post by phoenix on Oct 4, 2010 20:54:38 GMT 10
dont agree i have seen first hand the good things the president has done and were are these other people to help out? What.. the lease between bulldogs and canterbury council? Where are these other people to help out?? HE GOT RID OF THEM. He told one to politely 'f off' and he got rid of other volunteers.... so some of the remaining ones did the bolt before they copped the agouri up the koolooo |
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