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Post by aek210 on Feb 6, 2012 9:47:38 GMT 10
Hi There,
You may have noticed our group has come up in our forums.
After our annual Fan Group Meeting last night - we have decided to approach the Western Front.
I would love to hear your thoughts on working together - a possible affiliation or something closer, to come on board the Olympic train.
Now I would like to start by saying I use to sit in the Cove, and and was a part of the SCC. Like you and many on the Western Front - SFC never appealed to us - we many have supported it to support Aussie Football - but there was always something missing. They didn't represent us, they were a franchise, there was no true grass roots movement.
I, like you have waited years, only to see one 2nd Sydney bid fall over after another (be it a solid bid, or speculation).
Now I have always been an Olympic supporter and I can assure you that the club has really been kicking goals lately. Over 10,000 people at the Grand Final against United - a board who wants to play at the top level....and bear in mind - life members that are worth millions. These millionaires have an affinity with Olympic - a love for it. They stepped in over a decade ago and pumped over $16 million into the club.
We need to get a grass roots movement going to convince them there is something here worth investing in. Olympic Ultras are an active support group. Olympic play out of a boutique stadium - (as you would know recommendations over the past decade have stated that teams play out of a boutique stadium - for financial stability).
So you can see that Olympic does have potential - it has a large latent support group, we want to broaden its appeal to guys like yourself - and would love to have you on board - we have a stadium, potential backers - and as it stands - represent probably the best bid for a second Gay Leagueteam. We also represent a financially stable bid - a massive weight of the FFA's mind given the current climate.
We are a peoples movement - that have the same aims and a close relationship with the board. We were established in 1957 - have history - and traditions. I have spoken to quite a few non traditional Olympic fans - and they have all said - if done right - they would hop on board.
We are launching strategies and initiatives - one important date being the Olympic vs SFC match at the end of the year. We want to get the word out - and make a statement so loud the FFA and investors can't ignore.
Offcourse we are under no illusions - the FFA would much prefer another bid - but if we can get enough support we can make it happen and we would love guys like you on board
I am sure all the lads on here will make you feel welcome.
I have also sent this as a personal message to you.
AEK210
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Post by cigan1996 on Feb 7, 2012 20:49:01 GMT 10
i was once in the cove section
tried getting into it
FAIL
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Post by anothermp on Feb 7, 2012 20:58:50 GMT 10
Firstly, welcome to the forum brother.
It would be interesting to see what structure you have in place in terms of administration. We would be happy to help the right group with the right intentions get on its feet from infancy like where you're at atm.
I personally am keen on hearing about your experiences with the Cove and how being part of HAKOAs setup really felt firsthand. Surely can't be too positive if numbers have dropped in the way they have.
We all certainly can respect the philosophy that you've referred to, a greater good for western Sydney after the neglect and all the rest from FFA for so long. A joint tifo reflects a courtship and if you guys want that on the table id expect Olympic Ultras to want to see what you've got and why you deserve that kind of public acknowledgement up front. Actions speak louder than words, lets hear about your track record on here.
SUS boys won't admit it but as usual they want in, except 3/4 of their fans are Melbourne-based so its hard for them to get any good numbers usually.
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Post by Blaze on Feb 7, 2012 21:03:46 GMT 10
Westernfront I would agree and support a brother club pact with you guys if it would mean that you guys came down to Belmore in your own colours and stood beside us to send the message to the FFA, obviously the Olympic ultras would support a Western Sydney Club when and if it eventuates but in full Olympic Ultras colours.
Does an agreement like that sound reasonable?
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Post by cigan1996 on Feb 7, 2012 21:11:38 GMT 10
every1 should get free tickets to a HAKOA game and chant the other team
make a banner etc
"been around since 57 and lowy wants us dead, FUCK YOU LOWY"
that would be sick for the olympic boys
not really hard to get free tickets btw
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Post by westernfront on Feb 7, 2012 21:59:04 GMT 10
I don't know why this was deleted ,but, ill repost it
Dear AEK, and proud Olympic ultras
As true footballs fans most of us in the front feel exactly the same way you do in regards to HAKOA. At heart, we are Western Sydneyights through and through and many of us were ex members of the cove, but felt like we never truly belonged there. Sydney's FC one city one team mentality made us feel distinctly uncomfortable. As Western Sydney is where all the history is, Clubs like Olympic hold a special place in all our hearts, not only do we want to protect that history we want to actively promote it. However HAKOA and the FFA seem resolute on ignoring it. Just to assure you we in the front would never allow that to happen. It seems the whole NSL was judged on the previous actions of a few fans and these actions were enough to insight a senate enquiry to which the extent of the investigations are still surrounded in mystery and scepticism. Considering these events would have never gone past the governing sporting bodies in other countries FA’s, why it became a senate enquiry must cause speculation of certain peoples influence in Australian Political Parties. It’s one of the Western front’s mandates to liaison with the broader community, serve and protect it. HAKOA and the FFA is not one bit interested in promoting Western Sydney’s past in any club, except when it suits them. Their single-minded approach has caused all this angst and desire for a new culture. Their lack of community consultation in the first bid, and in consulting the old NSL clubs about the new league seems to have backfired and caused more harm than good. We believe in a philosophy of the greater good and actively seek alliances that promote Western Sydney’s football culture in a positive fashion. On a personal note, coming from a family that was passionate and active in the days of Polonia FC, believe me when I say personally never want to see such a historic club like Olympic be forgotten, regardless of which club nobody deserves that fate.
However, some in the front are concerned about some of the old war stories and clubs being ethnocentric. The Western Front serves a purpose to represent all aspects of the community; we also seek a fan share in the ownership structure of any club. We have received an agreement from all potential bidders that they would implement something of this nature even if it’s only 5-10% of the club, but, that will be 10% of a club owned by the fans. One thing we have tried to propose is that clubs like Olympic get behind a fan share structure for any future Western Sydney Club and use that percentage of that fan share to have some influence in the club. The western front are also a democratically elected body of fans that want to preserve that opportunity. So anybody, from any level of the community can be involved, despite their affiliations, education level or influence and some are concerned about losing that.
You are correct in your statement – ‘The FFA would soon rather another bid’, the original senate inquiry is a prime example of what this new body don’t want to happen. May we also point you in the direction of the Melbourne Knights and their bid attempt? Their attempt to be the founding Melbourne club was denied for the same reason. They were willing to drop all ethnic association, Change the colours and name to Melbourne United and the FFA still accepted a different bid. So in short we would love to help you guys out and propose an alliance between the Western Front and Olympic and that will remain even when the club eventuates.
We also need to show the FFA we can all work together. If you guys really want to send a strong message to the FFA. Can we suggest a joint tifo (effort?) and get as many clubs on it as possible. We have received an invitation to sit with some away fans at a fairly important fixture. We would only be willing to give the finer details to the organizers for obvious reasons. However if we all stand united and defiant imagine the press.
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
the Western Front
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Post by westernfront on Feb 7, 2012 22:08:31 GMT 10
Hey fella's We would be keen to show our tifo's from when we sat with the Mariners, excuse my ignorance, however I am still a newb on forum posting and don't know how to add images. Ill answer you post one by one. anothermp; I mean no disrespect when i say this, however we have gained a large amount of community support by doing what we do now. However, Game recognizes game and the torment we have caused the cove with our alliances lately speaks for itself. Blaze: We would be more then happy to do that if the favor was returned and i see no harm in sitting under one banner, why encourage separatist actions ? @cigan I think chants need to remain more positive and intelligent target and bait, the opposition, but thats my opinion. As they say 'Trolling is a art' lol |
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Post by cigan1996 on Feb 7, 2012 22:10:40 GMT 10
Hey fella's We would be keen to show our tifo's from when we sat with the Mariners, excuse my ignorance, however I am still a newb on forum posting and don't know how to add images. Ill answer you post one by one. anothermp; I mean no disrespect when i say this, however we have gained a large amount of community support by doing what we do now. However, Game recognizes game and the torment we have caused the cove with our alliances lately speaks for itself. Blaze: We would be more then happy to do that if the favor was returned and i see no harm in sitting under one banner, why encourage separatist actions ? @cigan I think chants need to remain more positive and intelligent target and bait, the opposition, but thats my opinion. As they say 'Trolling is a art' lol whens the clean up Australia day - western Sydney supporters thing i might come if i can get there |
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Post by Cockman on Feb 7, 2012 22:19:08 GMT 10
AEK- I also want to hear about your time with the Scum
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Post by sydcro57 on Feb 7, 2012 22:24:59 GMT 10
Western Front - Melbourne Knights did not put in a bid to join the league. The Melbourne United bid was NOT a Knights bid, it was a bid that wanted to use their facilities for training purposes. They saw it as a way of building links to the old clubs. The Knights were an obvious target for them for a number of reasons, the main ones being their proven track record in player development and the fact that the likes of Horvat and Didulica (if I remember correctly) were involved in the bid
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Post by sydcro57 on Feb 7, 2012 22:28:49 GMT 10
Question - have Olympic ever actually represented Western Sydney? lol
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Post by westernfront on Feb 7, 2012 22:28:51 GMT 10
@cigan 4Th of march more info on our facebook page.
Also guys please keep in mind we must remain neutral, consider us Switzerland in these matters lol. We wont back one club over another. However we call for unity out west if were to show the scum, the FFA any others were any chance at all.
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Post by westernfront on Feb 7, 2012 22:36:48 GMT 10
sydcro57 Hi mate that's not the information we were given, but, what information is accurate these days. You could be right my sources on are not entirely accurate but reliable enough. Regardless of how it went down. The Melbourne Knights involvement was supposedly one of the reasons the united bid never took. Not my opinion just letting you know what we were told.
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Post by sydcro57 on Feb 7, 2012 22:43:48 GMT 10
Yes, one of the big reasons why the United bid didnt get up was because of the link to the Knights. Many people perceived it as a Knights bid, hence the "Melbourne U-Knighted" tag that ended up getting attached to it
It was not, however, a Knights bid. The Knights hardly survived the NSL and almost didnt even make it to the VPL. Anyone who thinks they somehow put in a bid for the Gay Leagueis on drugs
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Post by mini on Feb 7, 2012 22:46:40 GMT 10
Question - have Olympic ever actually represented Western Sydney? lol We have never played played out of Western Sydney. |
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