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Post by paoktzi on Sept 10, 2010 20:22:11 GMT 10
Again the race card does not need to be used either against atec or against or squad of last year! Your both wrong by playing it! Can you please explain how I am using the race card? I've just said I couldn't give a toss what background a coach or player is... and you accuse me of playing the race card? WTF?? you said look we had greeks and we came second last same thing oposite to the turkish argument |
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Post by paoktzi on Sept 10, 2010 20:24:17 GMT 10
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Post by paoktzi on Sept 10, 2010 20:25:46 GMT 10
Exactly, so why did certain supporters and especially the two pissant journos use it? In the past we have had several Turkish players in our team in the past (e.g. Ozbey both when we were in the NSL he played Youth for Olympic Sharks, Akilli) and also several Skop players too (e.g Trajanovski). They all played for the blue and white jersey. Aytek coached wearing blue and white and wanted to win for blue and white. The journos kept harping on about bringing Greek players to Olympic to bring the crowds back. Yeah right we saw. We won two titles in the past and both times we had 2 greeks in the squad. Give me titles any day so the supporters of Sydney Olympic can have some pleasure. I don't care if we have a Turk, Skop, Alvano or oran-utan playing as long as we win and they celebrate with Olympic. You took the words right out of my mouth. from the outside looking in they had an agenda and there getting there way, does that mean you are not olympic anymore? When things dont go your way do you walk away? do you turn on something you love? I dont get it man |
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Post by phoenix on Sept 10, 2010 22:45:35 GMT 10
from the outside looking in they had an agenda and there getting there way, does that mean you are not olympic anymore? When things dont go your way do you walk away? do you turn on something you love? I dont get it man Like I said in my piece a few months ago..... my family got dicked and now my family will ALWAYS come ahead of Olympic... WAY AHEAD.. |
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Post by mr_football on Sept 10, 2010 23:40:49 GMT 10
to be honest i would rather have a squad of 20 turks albanians and masos and win the comp than a squad of 20 greeks and come 2nd last
Please Spiro wake up and listen to the people who know and dont get so pissed off when people say things you dont like
truth hurts sometimes re you gotta cop it and deal with it
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Post by anothermp on Sept 11, 2010 1:05:47 GMT 10
to be honest i would rather have a squad of 20 turks albanians and masos and win the comp than a squad of 20 greeks and come 2nd last Please Spiro wake up and listen to the people who know and dont get so pissed off when people say things you dont like truth hurts sometimes re you gotta cop it and deal with it gotta cop a psolzzzzz LOL |
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Post by paoktzi on Sept 11, 2010 8:37:55 GMT 10
to be honest i would rather have a squad of 20 turks albanians and masos and win the comp than a squad of 20 greeks and come 2nd last Please Spiro wake up and listen to the people who know and dont get so pissed off when people say things you dont like truth hurts sometimes re you gotta cop it and deal with it Mate its not about the truth its about getting angry with some people because some else did the wrong thing by you that does not make sense. Sydney Olympic FC is not one journalist mate |
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Post by thrillos on Sept 11, 2010 10:39:01 GMT 10
You took the words right out of my mouth. from the outside looking in they had an agenda and there getting there way, does that mean you are not olympic anymore? When things dont go your way do you walk away? do you turn on something you love? I dont get it man When did I ever walk away? I was always there. Others were not. I get angry because I am passionate. I write on here to try and correct somethings that I believe are wrong in the running of MY club. If you want us all to hold hands and sing ring-a-ring-a-rosey then sorry I cannot. Because by doing that, we will all fall down like the song says. |
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Post by paoktzi on Sept 11, 2010 10:51:55 GMT 10
from the outside looking in they had an agenda and there getting there way, does that mean you are not olympic anymore? When things dont go your way do you walk away? do you turn on something you love? I dont get it man When did I ever walk away? I was always there. Others were not. I get angry because I am passionate. I write on here to try and correct somethings that I believe are wrong in the running of MY club. If you want us all to hold hands and sing ring-a-ring-a-rosey then sorry I cannot. Because by doing that, we will all fall down like the song says. Those comments were directed at pheonix, his tone and atitude and comments of family first and this and that. But they are questions not comments |
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Post by mini on Sept 11, 2010 10:52:15 GMT 10
We're all Greek, we're meant to fight and argue with each other, but we always unite and truly deep down we love each other  |
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Post by anothermp on Sept 11, 2010 10:52:20 GMT 10
When did I ever walk away? I was always there. Others were not. I get angry because I am passionate. I write on here to try and correct somethings that I believe are wrong in the running of MY club. If you want us all to hold hands and sing ring-a-ring-a-rosey then sorry I cannot. Because by doing that, we will all fall down like the song says. We're here now. We are on the verge of some very special times for our club. Help us! |
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Post by paoktzi on Sept 11, 2010 11:22:09 GMT 10
We're all Greek, we're meant to fight and argue with each other, but we always unite and truly deep down we love each other I hope so |
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Post by phoenix on Sept 11, 2010 12:58:02 GMT 10
When did I ever walk away? I was always there. Others were not. I get angry because I am passionate. I write on here to try and correct somethings that I believe are wrong in the running of MY club. If you want us all to hold hands and sing ring-a-ring-a-rosey then sorry I cannot. Because by doing that, we will all fall down like the song says. Those comments were directed at pheonix, his tone and atitude and comments of family first and this and that. But they are questions not comments If you had more than 50% idea of what my family has gone through (and still going through with the club and FNSW) then you would totally understand why my tone is the way it is. I ain't singing ring-a-ring-a-rosey.. that's for sure. |
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Post by phoenix on Sept 11, 2010 13:00:30 GMT 10
When did I ever walk away? I was always there. Others were not. I get angry because I am passionate. I write on here to try and correct somethings that I believe are wrong in the running of MY club. If you want us all to hold hands and sing ring-a-ring-a-rosey then sorry I cannot. Because by doing that, we will all fall down like the song says. We're here now. We are on the verge of some very special times for our club. Help us! Thrillos has already done ten years... and the last few years have had a dramatic impact on his personal, work and family life. It's time for others to step up to the plate. Thrillos has done his time.. It's time for other 'smart arses' (none on here.. so don't get angry anyone) to put some time and effort into the club, instead of the constant criticism the club has endured over the last few years. If they claim that they already have full time jobs.... then the only thing I can reply with is " SO DID WE". |
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Post by mrinde on Sept 11, 2010 13:27:09 GMT 10
Guys,
The common thread that I see amongst us here is that as a group we understand each others love and commitment to SOFC. We will never all agree on a single topic or direction, but that is OK, the important thing is that we understand and comprehend our colleagues argument.
To be more specific, the broader SOFC community, understands and acknowledges Phoenix's and his family's contribution to the club as well as many other people over the many years of SOFC.
What we need to to do is understand what has happened to Phoenix et al and see if their grievances can be substantiated and if so what and how should they be addressed.
It is very obvious (despite what or who you shall believe) that significant events have occurred.
With the Gay Leaguein deep financial crisis, it is becoming more and more likely that SOFC will again take it's place in the top flight of football in Australia.
Let's focus on a number of points to make our reintroduction a success on all levels from day 1.
1. Get our house in order. We will never be able to keep everyone happy all the time, but we should have a professional process where members can lodge grievances and have them heard and dealt with in a professional/corporate manner. Then valuable people like Phoenix won't feel the need to effectively abandon the club for the sake of of personalities not working for the greater good of the club. (Please note: I'm using this example with Phoenix to illustrate the importance of having a independent process, I am not implying that Phoenix, his family or anyone else has fault or nor fault in his specific claims)
In short, we have to keep our members happy.
2. Prepare to enter the top flight. Using the current FFA and NRL standards as a guide prepare all aspects to a stage where they are "switch ready" i.e. we may not have them ready, but we have all the commitments in place to act when the "green light" is given. Obviously, with the Bulldogs preparing for a return to Belmore, this should be easier, but we don't want to appear as a sub-letee but rather as a co-tenant. This may mean, for example:- our own dressings rooms, but definitely, neutral or jointly beneficial signage around the ground. Contributing to and working with the Bulldogs Sales department, targeting sponsors on the basis that they get NRL and "A-league" exposure when they come on-board as BSG sponsors, this list can go on and on.
3. Community engagement. I have said this next line many times. We must move away from the statement " We are a Greek club" we need to be " A focused Australian community club with proud unforgettable and unseverable roots in the Greek-Australian migrant community who acknowledges and respects all individuals who exhibit the traditional Greek-Australians values that hard work, commitment, honesty and trustworthiness will hold you high regards with your peers and community, and if you (no matter what your background) can exhibit these same values, your club is SOFC". We have to be the club of choice in the area, the club that all juniors aspire to representing and their reasoning should be as simple as "they look after me". We need to be a role model club, that doesn't tolerate drugs, irresponsible drinking, disrespect of others and self that respects, education, prepare players for life after football, use facilities available to us.
4. Political affiliation. Remember all governments come and go, build great relationships with major parties, Labor and Liberal (remember, a grant is a grant and I'll take it from any party). But we have to give back, when thay ask for a fundraiser or want us to be an event for them. Proudly attend and say "We are SOFC and we are here representing all our members"
5. Membership, membership, membership!!!! - This is one of the most confusing points for me. Over the years, I have "signed up" many times as a member, not once do I ever remember getting a renewal. The times that I did sign up, I never received any information of what my responsibilities as a member were (and yes all members should have responsibilities) nor did I get what the clubs responsibilities were towards me. This needs to be streamlined.
6. Ownership - No-one but the community should ever own the club. Simple.
7. Clubhouse - there are so many little clubs that go under or wind up all the time. Have we identified potential targets? What are we doing in prep? Unfortunately, I haven't been to Belmore in a while, what's the state of that bowls club just outside, is it still there? Can a steathlike hostile takeover be engineered? What other options do we have?
That's all I can think of at the moment. I'm sure their is alot more.
Mr Inde
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